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Old 14th October 2013, 05:01 AM
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Okay, once you have registered it you can, if you wish, add your story under the surname profile which I think will be quite valuable to researchers of that name (both Irish and Anglicized versions).
Yes, I will follow through on that link to the Guild, thank you. It is a long shot, especially as the name has never before been registered there, but hey, nothing ventured, nothing gained, and so I will give it a go.
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Old 14th October 2013, 01:30 PM
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Thanks!

Honestly, with no ancient family DNA available for me to compare my own to it leaves me with only one option, to seek my closest genetic relatives in whatever family they come from. That method has provided some fairly tangible evidence, but the reality is that my own family history might never be known and might always remain a matter of guesswork.

Oh well, but I am having fun at it and am learning a lot.
There is an Irish site with some free pages. www.ulsterancestry.com
You might find some info there on the Morrison name.
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Old 14th October 2013, 07:37 PM
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There is an Irish site with some free pages. www.ulsterancestry.com
You might find some info there on the Morrison name.
That is a genealogy website. The big and powerful families might be able to trace their family history back for hundreds and hundreds of years, but those of us from the smaller families can quickly run out of luck. The O'Muirgheasain name eventually became Morrison, but that took hundreds of years and during that time the name went through more spelling changes than a person has fingers. The name does appear on some ancient documents, but always with the name spelled in a different way, and those documents are usually a hundred, a hundred and fifty or two hundred years apart. My own paper trail goes reliably back to the later 18th century and there is a possibility of the paper trail going back for perhaps a few decades before that, but that is about as far back as realistically possible.

For instance my g-g-grandfather is listed in a parish register but in the same register his brothers and sisters have their surname spelled differently! And yes, there are a lot of Morrisons in Ulster, but nearly all of them are of Scottish origin.

I am not trying to be a pessimist, but I have already made many diappointing discoveries.
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Old 15th October 2013, 02:58 AM
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That is a genealogy website. The big and powerful families might be able to trace their family history back for hundreds and hundreds of years, but those of us from the smaller families can quickly run out of luck. The O'Muirgheasain name eventually became Morrison, but that took hundreds of years and during that time the name went through more spelling changes than a person has fingers. The name does appear on some ancient documents, but always with the name spelled in a different way, and those documents are usually a hundred, a hundred and fifty or two hundred years apart. My own paper trail goes reliably back to the later 18th century and there is a possibility of the paper trail going back for perhaps a few decades before that, but that is about as far back as realistically possible.

For instance my g-g-grandfather is listed in a parish register but in the same register his brothers and sisters have their surname spelled differently! And yes, there are a lot of Morrisons in Ulster, but nearly all of them are of Scottish origin.

I am not trying to be a pessimist, but I have already made many diappointing discoveries.
You should be happy enough with the fact that you are in the M222 branch.That is the reason that I took my first dna test and I was surprised with my results.
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Old 16th October 2013, 11:15 PM
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You should be happy enough with the fact that you are in the M222 branch.That is the reason that I took my first dna test and I was surprised with my results.
M222 is called Northwest Irish and I am M222+, yet there are a much lesser but fair number of M222+ men from Scotland, too.

I participate with a couple of M222 groups, where most of us are Irish, some of us are Scottish, and some of us could be both.

Anyway, we all get along like one big family, no matter where we come from.
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Old 17th October 2013, 06:45 AM
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M222 is called Northwest Irish and I am M222+, yet there are a much lesser but fair number of M222+ men from Scotland, too.

I participate with a couple of M222 groups, where most of us are Irish, some of us are Scottish, and some of us could be both.

Anyway, we all get along like one big family, no matter where we come from.
If you want to find which of the new SNPs you have you will have to take the Chrom2 which I think is a good test for anyone with links to the Isles.The Geno2 is a better test for those outside the Isles.
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Old 17th October 2013, 11:59 AM
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If you want to find which of the new SNPs you have you will have to take the Chrom2 which I think is a good test for anyone with links to the Isles.The Geno2 is a better test for those outside the Isles.
In fact I have recently exchanged email with Laura Marshall of ScotlandsDNA about the Chromo2 test, which I now plan to take.
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Old 19th October 2013, 09:04 AM
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Thanks!

Honestly, with no ancient family DNA available for me to compare my own to it leaves me with only one option, to seek my closest genetic relatives in whatever family they come from. That method has provided some fairly tangible evidence, but the reality is that my own family history might never be known and might always remain a matter of guesswork.

Oh well, but I am having fun at it and am learning a lot.
I think that is the main thing Doug, that we enjoy the search. Thanks for giving us a glimpse into some of your ancestry.
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Old 21st October 2013, 06:55 AM
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In fact I have recently exchanged email with Laura Marshall of ScotlandsDNA about the Chromo2 test, which I now plan to take.
I paid for the Chromo2 test today and if I find any new SNPs I will post them here on this forum.
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Old 21st October 2013, 10:23 PM
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I paid for the Chromo2 test today and if I find any new SNPs I will post them here on this forum.
I will be sending payment for Chromo2 in the next few days, but am busy at the moment.
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