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Old 6th December 2013, 06:30 AM
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I belong to a Stevens/Stephens family group that has tested DF41+ (P312>L21>DF13>DF41) and is part of a haplotype cluster with the following distinctive marker values: 390=23; 385=11-11; 447<=24; 464b=16; 534<=14; 413a<=22. The following values are also usually found in the cluster but not always: 458=16 and 439<=11.

I have done the most dna testing of anyone in my family group, with 111 STR markers and pretty extensive SNP testing. My two sons have also tested, the eldest to 37 markers and the youngest to 67. My father has tested thus far only to 12 markers, but he has a Geno 2.0 test in the works with the results due very soon (the test is 80% compete). A second cousin once removed (i.e., my dad's second cousin) has tested to 37 markers and is a match for the rest of us. He and I share the same second great grandfather, James Holmes Stevens, born 31 Dec 1835 in Beaver County, Pennsylvania.

My particular y-dna line descends from my 3rd great grandfather, Auguston Stevens, born 05 Feb 1804 in Wheeling, West Virginia, which was part of Virginia back then, since the state of West Virginia did not yet exist.

In addition to these known family members, I have a couple of matches at 111 markers and two at 37 markers with men who bear the surname:

Stephens, kit 208061 - 107/111 (MDKA born 1798 in Caswell County, North Carolina) - My closest 111-marker match.

Stevens, kit 212967 - 106/111 (MDKA born 1827 in Indiana) - My next closest 111-marker match.

Stevens, kit 312416 - 35/37 (MDKA born 1798 in Maryland)

Stevens, kit 191492 - 34/37 (MDKA born in 1795 in Pennsylvania)

These last four, although they are almost certainly relatives within genealogical time, cannot be connected up to my y-dna line in terms of a paper trail. The first two, kits 208061 and 212967, have both tested DF41+.

What we really need is a Stevens/Stephens with a solid paper trail to the Old Country or one that would at least make clear our family connections. In the meantime, we have the following non-surname matches that would seem to indicate that our immigrant ancestor possibly came from Wales or nearby in western England:

Samuel, kit N104746 - 105/111 (MDKA born c. 1670 in Llanafan-fawr, Wales)

Webb, kit 163684 - 103/111 (MDKA born 1700 in New Jersey)

Beddoes, kit # unknown - 65/67 (MDKA not given, but Beddoes himself was born in Worcester, England, and told me his family was from Shropshire)

Price, kit 28470 - 60/67 (MDKA born 1730 in Virginia)

The surnames Samuel, Beddoes, and Price are Welsh. Webb is an English surname, but common in Shropshire on the Welsh border. Stevens/Stephens can also be a Welsh surname, but it is found in England, Scotland, and Ireland, as well. It is very common in Cornwall.

As you can see, the only matches I have with a traceable connection to the Old Country are Samuel and Beddoes. Both surnames are Welsh. Samuel has a solid paper trail to Wales. Beddoes was born in Worcester but says his family is from Shropshire, both locations very near the Welsh border.
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Old 22nd February 2014, 11:54 AM
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I picked up a new exact 12-marker match today, which would be no big deal except for the fact that this one has my surname: Stevens, kit 326490. His listed mdka is Obadiah Stevens, who was born about 1787 in England, but he doesn't say exactly where in England. The gentleman has 37 markers on order, due 14 March, so we should know soon whether or not the match holds up, at least at 37. I emailed him and suggested he order a DF41 test. Hopefully, he will.
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I picked up a new exact 12-marker match today, which would be no big deal except for the fact that this one has my surname: Stevens, kit 326490. His listed mdka is Obadiah Stevens, who was born about 1787 in England, but he doesn't say exactly where in England. The gentleman has 37 markers on order, due 14 March, so we should know soon whether or not the match holds up, at least at 37. I emailed him and suggested he order a DF41 test. Hopefully, he will.
Well, my new match got the rest of his 37 markers: now we are a 36/37 match. We differ at CDYb, where he has 39 and I have 38. CDY is a fast mutator, and I appear to have a RecLoH there (38-38). So, I think we are probably related within genealogical time.

Now I am hoping he will upgrade to more markers. We'll see.
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As it turns out, my new 36/37 match cannot actually trace his y-dna line to England. His mdka was born in "Beesontown" (now Uniontown), Pennsylvania, which is in the old Western PA stomping grounds of my own family (aha!).
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I have created a Google map of this group here.

I am hoping that more pieces of the puzzle fall into place and we can find out who our immigrant y-dna ancestor was and where he came from.
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I picked up a new exact 12-marker match today, which would be no big deal except for the fact that this one has my surname: Stevens, kit 326490. His listed mdka is Obadiah Stevens, who was born about 1787 in England, but he doesn't say exactly where in England. The gentleman has 37 markers on order, due 14 March, so we should know soon whether or not the match holds up, at least at 37. I emailed him and suggested he order a DF41 test. Hopefully, he will.
The upgrade for my 36/37 match above just went to 64/67. Our differences come on three fast-mutating markers, as follows:

CDY, where he has 38-39 and I have 38-38.
413, where he has 21-21 and I have 21-23.
557, where he has 16 and I have 17.

The mismatch at 413 may look like it should be two, but it is really only counted as one since it is apparently a RecLoH (Recombinant Loss of Heterozygosity).

Now we're trying to pool resources to organize an upgrade to 111 markers.

I've been doing some digging into Fayette County, Pennsylvania, where my new match's mdka was born in 1787. I don't have anything firm yet, but a possible "person of interest" is Evan Stephens (or Evan ap Stephen), who was born in Cardiff, Wales, in 1692 and immigrated to North America in 1715. He lived and died in Bucks County, PA, but some of his sons went to Fayette County.

Like I said, nothing firm yet, but investigative leads are being developed.
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Now we're trying to pool resources to organize an upgrade to 111 markers. . .
We managed it. The upgrade to 111 markers has been ordered.
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We managed it. The upgrade to 111 markers has been ordered.
Still waiting on the upgrade. Waiting is the toughest part of this sport.
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We managed it. The upgrade to 111 markers has been ordered.
All but one panel of his 111-marker upgrade has come in, and he has picked up only one more unit of genetic distance from me. If that holds up, and it should, we'll be a 107/111 match, which is not bad. That will make kit 326490 one of two 107/111 matches I have, and those are my two closest 111-marker matches, one with the surname Stevens, spelled as my surname is spelled, and one with the surname Stephens.

Kit 326490's closest match at 67 was my Stephens match, 65/67, but he has picked up two more units of genetic distance on him, so, if everything stays the same, we three will all be four off each other at 111 markers and will be each other's closest matches.

Kit 326490 lacks Panel 5, markers 76-85, for his upgrade to be complete. Hope those come in soon!
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Kit 326490's 111-marker upgrade is now complete. He and I are now a 107/111 match (four away at 111 markers), which makes me one of his two closest matches (both 107/111) and him one of my two closest matches (both also 107/111). We are also the two closest matches for our mutual other 107/111 match, who has the surname Stephens.

Very cool!

Now the slogging along the paper trail resumes.
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