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Old 10th May 2009, 07:00 PM
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phylotree.org - Updated

Phylotree.org has been updated to version 4. Lots of new information, I like the way it's been updated, much easier to work with.
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Old 10th May 2009, 10:28 PM
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Phylotree.org has been updated to version 4. Lots of new information, I like the way it's been updated, much easier to work with.
I was just looking at it and it looks like my H11a has been changed to H11a2. Interesting.
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Old 10th May 2009, 11:10 PM
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Old 21st May 2009, 01:27 AM
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Question 16304?

I've been browsing around trying to find HVR1 & HVR2 that looks like they could be somewhat related to my U5b2. And a couple of times I've seen 16304 attached (including Ulster & Benelux). I'm wondering if they could be U5b2 or U5b3. I don't see it listed on Phylotree. The Ulster HVR2 with 16304 is a close match to mine. For that mmatter, so is the Benelux HVR2 similar to mine; both with the rare 228A like mine.

HVR1: 16270T & 16519C

HVR2: 73G, 150T, 228A, 263G, 309.1C & 315.1C

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Old 21st May 2009, 04:50 AM
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I've been browsing around trying to find HVR1 & HVR2 that looks like they could be somewhat related to my U5b2. And a couple of times I've seen 16304 attached (including Ulster & Benelux). I'm wondering if they could be U5b2 or U5b3. I don't see it listed on Phylotree. The Ulster HVR2 with 16304 is a close match to mine. For that mmatter, so is the Benelux HVR2 similar to mine; both with the rare 228A like mine.

HVR1: 16270T & 16519C

HVR2: 73G, 150T, 228A, 263G, 309.1C & 315.1C
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UK U5b3: 16270, 16270, 16304, 16526; 150, 228 (Logan's chart # 257)

Ulster U5: 16129, 16192, 16270, 16304; 73, 150, 228, 263, 315.1

Benelux U5b: 16192, 16270, 16304; 73, 150, 185, 228, 263, 315.1

16192 is normal for U5b & may be ancestral to its base.

The UK U5b3 doesn't look much like the Sardinian U5b3 (Fraumene).

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Old 21st May 2009, 08:53 PM
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another (rare) close one

Well, it looks like I'm just talking to myself. But anyway, I see on Phylotree that 16192 is at the root of U5; not limited to U5b.

Another control region entry (Spain-Galicia) is also close to mine:

16192, 16270, 16519; 73, 150, 151, 228, 263, 309.1 & 315.1.

Maybe she is closer than the others I mentioned above.

U5b2 & R1a1
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Old 26th May 2009, 02:16 AM
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Re 16304

After browsing the U5 Project, I noticed that 16304 seems to be diagnostic for U5b. But I didn't see any in the U5b1 or U5b2 groups. Thus far, none of those U5/U5b with 16304 have had an FGS done. But they tend to be near mine, which is not common (even tho I don't have 16304).

U5b2(11653G) & R1a1

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Old 26th May 2009, 02:26 AM
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I've seen 16304C in H, H5, H5a1, K, T1a, T2, T2b, and U5. I'm not sure it could be considered diagnostic for anything.
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Old 26th May 2009, 03:38 AM
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I've seen 16304C in H, H5, H5a1, K, T1a, T2, T2b, and U5. I'm not sure it could be considered diagnostic for anything.
Yeah, I looked again at the long list on the U5 Project, and there are several 16304 scattered throughout the list, including at least one U5a. And not all of them are close to mine. But there seems to be a frequent tie to 228A. Also, a U5b3 has a 16304. That one was identified by the person himself on a DNA Forums thread, and supposedly from the UK (but with a Swiss connection in the family history); and shown on Ian Logan's U5b chart (far left side). Oh well...

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Old 1st August 2009, 01:34 PM
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According to the Phylotree, my H1 with 477c is actually H1c.
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