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Old 18th March 2017, 09:13 PM
MoberlyDrake MoberlyDrake is offline
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The only problem with Ancestry is it's a database full of blanks! Not 1 in 10 have a tree that goes back more that 2 or 3 generations, if they have any tree at all. And no one replies to emails, either because they don't know they have messages (the icon isn't very noticeable), or because they don't know anything about their family and couldn't care less, or because once they saw their ethnicity results they never logged in again. Ancestry's advertising campaign focuses on ethnicity results and most people test just to get that. It's not very reliable, but they'll never know.
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Old 19th March 2017, 04:09 PM
keigh keigh is offline
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MoberlyDrake has a point about the trees at Ancestry, but I've found that there is a dearth of trees here at FTDNA as well. Here at FTDNA frequently I'll see that a match has a tree shown in blue, but when I look at it, there is only one person on it, the match.

There are a lot of people who take the test as soon as they decide that they are going to do a family tree. And they get their results sort of expecting that to build their tree for them. It doesn't. It takes work and some information for matches to link to each other.

I recently had a 4th cousin pop up on Ancestry. She had 4 people on her tree. I took a look at one name and location and was able to build a mirror tree up from that name to several common lines we share. We link from both sides of her paternal grandfather as both of his parent's were related and I had them on my tree. But if I hadn't shared the information with my match she still might have just 4 people to work with on her tree. And Ancestry had the records I needed to consult doing a search for her grandfather to quickly discover his death certificate, marriage license, and birth records. Those had names that clicked with me. FTDNA doesn't have that ease of record searching attached to it. So belonging to Ancestry, with or without trees, has some advantages to it. I use both companies.
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Old 19th March 2017, 06:04 PM
MoberlyDrake MoberlyDrake is offline
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For some reason or another, I seldom get replies from my Ancestry matches.

One of my high matches just had a 2 generation tree, but I was interested in her mother's surname, as I suspect it may be a solution to one of my brick walls. So I traced that line back to the 1700s. It took a couple of days. I contacted the match and asked her to contact me as I had traced the line back that far and had documents to prove it. I never heard from her.

My mother has only one grandparent who had UK and colonial American ancestry. One side NJ, and one side brick walls in KY around 1810 probably from NC and VA. At Ancestry, my mother has at least a half dozen close matches descended from her 2nd great-grandparents from NJ. None here. I wrote to each of them last night telling them about the new free transfers and directing them to Roberta Estes' blog about it.

I was thinking that if I could mark some DNA segments as coming from that NJ line, I would at least know that those segments do not belong to my KY brick walls. One match shares 110 centimorgans across 5 DNA segments. That seems a little high.

I'm waiting to see if any transfer. I suspect that none will. If I have any success, I could invite matches for a few more generations back on the NJ side.
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Old 19th March 2017, 06:21 PM
keigh keigh is offline
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I've had some none replies from both Ancestry and FTDNA, but I keep digging.

Recently on Ancestry, my closest match yet showed up as a 2nd cousin, administered by I think is a relative of his. His DNA is linked to her tree which doesn't mean anything to me. However, there were some clues with the username that is given as the administrator, and with Ancestry's profile letting people list their message board posts. My cousin at one point awhile back was discussing the family that I had pegged him to using the Ancestry shared match feature. He gave his history back as he'd traced it on the message board. Right through my brick wall!!!!!!! So now I'm several generations back with clues on where to hunt.

If I could get this cousin to come over here, we could get a look at where we match and perhaps confirm what great grandfather we share.

Both sites have their advantages and problems. I think trees are a problem everywhere. And a lack of response is at times very annoying.
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Old 19th March 2017, 07:27 PM
MMaddi MMaddi is offline
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Both sites have their advantages and problems. I think trees are a problem everywhere. And a lack of response is at times very annoying.
You are 100% right about this. All of the three main testing companies have a frustrating lack of replies from and trees posted by matches.

I can understand this for 23andMe, since the company until very recently has advertised itself as a place to test to learn about health traits and doesn't encourage its customers much to opt into DNA Relatives. Since both AncestryDNA and FTDNA are marketing to genealogists, it's a head scratcher why more people don't reply and don't seem to be interested in collaboration to find common ancestors.

In the case of AncestryDNA, I think that many of their customers order the test after seeing a commercial about how they'll find out their ethnic ancestry and may even have to give up their lederhosen for a kilt. I also think that many people at both AncestryDNA and FTDNA have the idea that testing their DNA will magically churn out a family tree for them. They don't realize that genealogy sometimes takes years of research and collaboration with others to make progress.
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Old 20th March 2017, 09:48 AM
keigh keigh is offline
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It's the "Being served a Family Tree on a silver platter" mind set that Ancestry reinforces with their "genealogy is SO EASY to do" commercials. Just put a couple of names on a tree and the Ancestry program will bring out all this other information to add to your tree. Hah!
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Old 28th March 2017, 10:48 AM
Faithiebee123 Faithiebee123 is offline
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I've messaged a few people but I've gotten 0 replies. Not surprised though. I've been trying to find info on my birth parents for about 10 years now. Guess it's meant to be a mystery.
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Old 17th April 2017, 08:39 PM
BBA64 BBA64 is offline
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Hi,
You may wish to join the GAGP project here on FTDNA. There are some very good pinned posts to help with further research and testing. One resource highly recommended is dnaadoption.com. Their methods are sound and proven (as I can personally attest).

One thing about messaging in ancestry.com - the green buttons are internal messages somebody will only see if they log on. The brown one you access from the users's profiles actually sends and e-mail out ("Contact <username>"). This may help, a little.

Good luck!
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Old 18th April 2017, 12:45 PM
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I agree

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You are 100% right about this. All of the three main testing companies have a frustrating lack of replies from and trees posted by matches.

I can understand this for 23andMe, since the company until very recently has advertised itself as a place to test to learn about health traits and doesn't encourage its customers much to opt into DNA Relatives. Since both AncestryDNA and FTDNA are marketing to genealogists, it's a head scratcher why more people don't reply and don't seem to be interested in collaboration to find common ancestors.

In the case of AncestryDNA, I think that many of their customers order the test after seeing a commercial about how they'll find out their ethnic ancestry and may even have to give up their lederhosen for a kilt. I also think that many people at both AncestryDNA and FTDNA have the idea that testing their DNA will magically churn out a family tree for them. They don't realize that genealogy sometimes takes years of research and collaboration with others to make progress.
I agree with Mike. In my own case, it has been a three pronged search starting at 2004(obtaining non id info from CHS of Jacksonville, FL), ydna, family finder testing(FTDNA) together with autosomal(ancestry) and the assistance of a genealogist who has solved over 500 adoptee cases, culminating with a 2nd cousin 1x removed match at FTDNA, several 2nd cousin matches(Ancestry) and just recently a 1st cousin 1x removed match at ancestry. H.W.'s great-grandmother was my grandmother. I mentioned the non id info and I obtained the death certificate for my late grandmother and her cause of death matched word for word what my birth mom shared with the CHS of Jacksonville, FL, so I knew I had confirmed my maternal grandmother, and two of her daughters fit the age I was told for my birth mother, and I eliminated one of them, and confirming the other sister as my birth mother.

Best regards, Doug
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Old 20th April 2017, 08:56 PM
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You are 100% right about this. All of the three main testing companies have a frustrating lack of replies from and trees posted by matches.

I can understand this for 23andMe, since the company until very recently has advertised itself as a place to test to learn about health traits and doesn't encourage its customers much to opt into DNA Relatives. Since both AncestryDNA and FTDNA are marketing to genealogists, it's a head scratcher why more people don't reply and don't seem to be interested in collaboration to find common ancestors.

In the case of AncestryDNA, I think that many of their customers order the test after seeing a commercial about how they'll find out their ethnic ancestry and may even have to give up their lederhosen for a kilt. I also think that many people at both AncestryDNA and FTDNA have the idea that testing their DNA will magically churn out a family tree for them. They don't realize that genealogy sometimes takes years of research and collaboration with others to make progress.
I just tested w Ancestry and also noticed more than half of my very distant matches (the majority) have no tree and don't respond or have three people on their tree!!! Um, how is that helpful???? It is literally the tester and their parents. Lol. Very disappointed in Ancestry. I have a very detailed tree and thought I would be able to prove or link my father's suspected father somehow. Only had two somewhat close matches. Like 3rd or 4th cousin range. The rest are out there. Some are duplicates from ftdna. But I guess I will have to research every one to get a full picture. Have not tested at 23 and me and really have no plans.
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