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Old 17th October 2016, 11:43 AM
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Haplogroup B M-181 WITH ARAB

Hi ,

I will ask about the results on the Haplogroup B M-181
I Need more information about this group

this group with arab for example in saudi arabia and jordan
why all information refer to africa ???
we are not african we are arab since thousand years ago


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Old 17th October 2016, 11:46 AM
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https://www.yfull.com/tree/B/
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Old 17th October 2016, 12:02 PM
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While someone who is B-M181 may be from Saudi Arabia or Jordan, as far as his recent ancestry (last several hundred years), the paternal line is originally African more than several hundred years ago.

You can see this at http://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpB.html where you'll find this quote: "Y-DNA haplogroup B, like Y-DNA haplogroup A, is seen only in Africa and is scattered widely, but thinly across the continent. B is thought to have arisen approximately 50,000 years ago. These haplogroups have higher frequencies among hunter-gather groups in Ethiopia and Sudan, and are also seen among click language-speaking populations. The patchy, widespread distribution of these haplogroups may mean that they are remnants of ancient lineages that once had a much wider range but have been largely displaced by more recent population events."

Notice that the quote refers to the presence of haplogroup B among hunter-gatherers in Sudan. Since Sudan is across the Red Sea from Saudi Arabia, the distant ancestry of a Saudi man who is B-M181 could very well be from Sudan.
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Old 18th October 2016, 09:25 AM
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we are not african we are arab since thousand years ago

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How do you know your patrilineal ancestry was Arab since thousand years ago ? The genealogy records are not always reliable. For example one, of my Y-DNA matches is someone from Saudi Arabia. He said his family lived in Mecca since about 200 years ago. Before that, they lived in Yemen. But, obviously his paternal ancestor wasn't Arab because he belongs to Haplogroup O.
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Old 18th October 2016, 09:38 PM
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In particular, notice the entries marked as SAU (Saudi Arabia), QAT (Qatar), and KWT (Kuwait).

The B-PAGES00048 clade is perhaps the most mysterious. Taken at face value, it would imply that the clade has been on the Arabian Peninsula for 30,000 years.
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Old 23rd October 2016, 09:31 AM
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How do you know your patrilineal ancestry was Arab since thousand years ago ? The genealogy records are not always reliable. For example one, of my Y-DNA matches is someone from Saudi Arabia. He said his family lived in Mecca since about 200 years ago. Before that, they lived in Yemen. But, obviously his paternal ancestor wasn't Arab because he belongs to Haplogroup O.

You are right and thank you
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Old 23rd October 2016, 09:32 AM
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In particular, notice the entries marked as SAU (Saudi Arabia), QAT (Qatar), and KWT (Kuwait).

The B-PAGES00048 clade is perhaps the most mysterious. Taken at face value, it would imply that the clade has been on the Arabian Peninsula for 30,000 years.
may be
The continent of Asia and Africa were detached

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Old 26th September 2017, 04:12 PM
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Hi ,

I will ask about the results on the Haplogroup B M-181
I Need more information about this group

this group with arab for example in saudi arabia and jordan
why all information refer to africa ???
we are not african we are arab since thousand years ago


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The information you find in FTDNA's Haplogroup B page refers to Africa because it deals with 'deep ancestry'. Deep ancestry genetic testing makes inferences about someone's "deep" ancestry, hundreds or thousands of years into the past. Genetic genealogy, which is what you may be interested in, combines DNA testing with genealogical and historical records, and typically makes use of large databases to identify matches, or direct comparisons to test for expected matches.
Most groups in FTDNA are dedicated to genetic genealogy. Haplogroup B, jointly with haplogroup A and other basal groups, is interested in exploring the deep ancestry of its members. The defining mutations of this haplogroup occurred in Eastern Africa, most probably, between 90k and 120K years ago.
You may find more information about the Arab HG B members by conducting historical and genealogical research.
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