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Old 14th October 2012, 06:11 AM
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Can someone please explain which countries Western Mediterranean, Eastern Mediterranean and West Asian represent?

Here is mine. I am half Irish and half German and in the Mixed Mode Sharing below, the 14th combination they gave is 59.2% English + 40.8% DE @ 4.04 distance, which is the absolute closest ANY of the oracles (including FTDNA PF) have gotten. (PF is Orcadian 91.13% + Middle East 8.87% @ 2.74%.)

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# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 30.91
2 ATLANTIC 24.52
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.28
4 EAST_EURO 9.53
5 WEST_MED 9.33
6 EAST_MED 6.35
7 WEST_ASIAN 4.87
8 ASHKENAZI 2.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 English 4.38
2 DE 4.73
3 NL 4.86
4 DK 6.48
5 Cornish 7.15
6 Orcadian 7.22
7 IE 7.97
8 NO 8.08
9 South & Central Swedish 8.62
10 Scottish 8.85
11 FR 11.95
12 AT 12.37
13 North Swedish 12.45
14 HU 17.71
15 Southwest Finnish 17.72
16 Serbian 18.49
17 PT 18.51
18 ES 19.43
19 North Italian 21.27
20 RO 21.97

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.3% English + 4.7% Druze @ 3.48
2 95.1% English + 4.9% Assyrian @ 3.54
3 94.9% English + 5.1% IR @ 3.57
4 95% English + 5% Kurdish @ 3.57
5 95.4% English + 4.6% Mandean @ 3.59
6 94.5% English + 5.5% TR @ 3.62
7 95.3% English + 4.7% Armenian @ 3.64
8 95.7% English + 4.3% GE @ 3.65
9 95.2% English + 4.8% Lezgin @ 3.75
10 95.7% English + 4.3% IQ @ 3.76
11 94.4% English + 5.6% GR @ 3.87
12 94.6% English + 5.4% South Italian & Sicilian @ 3.96
13 96.9% English + 3.1% Brahui @ 4.02
14 59.2% English + 40.8% DE @ 4.04
15 91.9% English + 8.1% Serbian @ 4.08
16 94% English + 6% Tuscan @ 4.1
17 98% English + 2% Bedouin @ 4.15
18 94.6% English + 5.4% RO @ 4.21
19 98.2% English + 1.8% Kalash @ 4.25
20 98.4% English + 1.6% Sindhi @ 4.27
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Old 14th October 2012, 10:42 AM
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country codes

You will find the 2 letter country codes at this:
[url]www.theodora.com/country_digraphs.html
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Old 14th October 2012, 12:34 PM
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Wgat is CEU?

What is CEU? This is from MDLP World 22. We have no German/Swedish in our lines that would make this predominant. Our Europe is English/Scotch/Irish


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 34.5% Costanoan (derived) @ 4.74
2 77% German-South (derived) + 23% Serrano (derived) @ 5.11
3 67.2% German-South (derived) + 32.8% Miwok (derived) @ 5.35
4 85.5% German-South (derived) + 14.5% Luiseno (derived) @ 5.4
5 61.2% Swedish (derived) + 38.8% Costanoan (derived) @ 5.49
6 78.1% German-South (derived) + 21.9% Cochimi (derived) @ 5.54
7 84.7% German-South (derived) + 15.3% Maya (derived) @ 5.58
8 67.9% CEU (derived) + 32.1% Costanoan (derived) @ 5.65
9 59.7% Swedish_V (derived) + 40.3% Costanoan (derived) @ 5.65
10 71.5% German-South (derived) + 28.5% Mexican (derived) @ 5.65
11 64.7% Welsh (derived) + 35.3% Costanoan (derived) @ 5.76
12 84% German-South (derived) + 16% Cucupa (derived) @ 5.76
13 67.7% CEU (derived) + 32.3% Mexican (derived) @ 5.77
14 65.5% Orcadian (derived) + 34.5% Costanoan (derived) @ 5.86
15 65.8% German_V (derived) + 34.2% Mexican (derived) @ 5.86
16 74.2% CEU (derived) + 25.8% Serrano (derived) @ 5.86
17 63.4% CEU (derived) + 36.6% Miwok (derived) @ 5.87
18 81.8% German-South (derived) + 18.2% Kumiai (derived) @ 5.97
19 86.7% German-South (derived) + 13.3% Mixtec (derived) @ 5.98
20 86.8% German-South (derived) + 13.2% Huichol (derived) @ 6.01
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Old 14th October 2012, 12:52 PM
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why would it indicate recent austrian ancestry.

What is recent, how many years....100 years or 200 years, I do not know.

You have austrian and hugarian, both on the danube river and this was a highway into central europe from the black sea area.

Also, people take the given nationality as fact......its not necessary always the case. You need to check history of the nation.
Example, in some oracle numbers I have bulgarian, but bulgarian are a archic Turkic people, I have no archic Turkic in my chromose, so it could be Thracian ( they ruled all bulgaria, romania, moldovia and serbia at one time )

I have no Austrian or Serbian ancestry. My family has been in Southern Italy and England since the 1700's, probably even prior to that. My surname itself is a 16th century Italian surname derived from a ancient Hebrew name. My family has been in Southern Europe for hundreds of years. I just think the calculator itself is not accurate for me.


Its possible that since I'm a mix of Southern European, Northern, And MiddleEastern, that it's pulling my data towards Central Europe, and the Caucusas.

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Old 14th October 2012, 01:17 PM
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I have no Austrian or Serbian ancestry. My family has been in Southern Italy and England since the 1700's, probably even prior to that. My surname itself is a 16th century Italian surname derived from a ancient Hebrew name. My family has been in Southern Europe for hundreds of years. I just think the calculator itself is not accurate for me.


Its possible that since I'm a mix of Southern European, Northern, And MiddleEastern, that it's pulling my data towards Central Europe, and the Caucusas.

See what they give you on MDLP world 22.

My Uncle's DNA is the one I posted above. Im coming up with 18% secondary Ashkenazi. This is wrong. I also get Iraqui ???. also Austria/German/Swedish????? My Europe again is Orcadian. My Mexico all listed Indian on paper (one listed African Indian mixed but this is my 4th great). Y and MT DNA AI.


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.1% German_V (derived) + 12.9% Miwok (derived) @ 2.52
2 87% CEU_V (derived) + 13% Costanoan (derived) @ 2.56
3 88.9% German_V (derived) + 11.1% Mexican (derived) @ 2.7
4 91.1% German_V (derived) + 8.9% Serrano (derived) @ 2.83
5 91.4% German_V (derived) + 8.6% Cochimi (derived) @ 2.88
6 87.5% Austrian (derived) + 12.5% Miwok (derived) @ 3.07
7 93.8% German_V (derived) + 6.2% Cucupa (derived) @ 3.14
8 94% German_V (derived) + 6% Maya (derived) @ 3.14
9 92.9% German_V (derived) + 7.1% Kumiai (derived) @ 3.16
10 89.4% German_V (derived) + 10.6% Costanoan (derived) @ 3.19
11 81.2% German-North (derived) + 18.8% Ashkenazim (derived) @ 3.21
12 81.7% German-North (derived) + 18.3% Costanoan (derived) @ 3.22
13 94.4% German_V (derived) + 5.6% Luiseno (derived) @ 3.22
14 93.7% German_V (derived) + 6.3% Apache (derived) @ 3.24
15 94.6% German_V (derived) + 5.4% Navajo (derived) @ 3.28
16 91.3% Austrian (derived) + 8.7% Serrano (derived) @ 3.29
17 91.1% CEU_V (derived) + 8.9% Iraqi (derived) @ 3.34
18 86.2% CEU_V (derived) + 13.8% Miwok (derived) @ 3.34
19 80.7% Swedish (derived) + 19.3% Costanoan (derived) @ 3.34
20 93.1% German_V (derived) + 6.9% Colombian (derived) @ 3.34
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Old 14th October 2012, 01:24 PM
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What is CEU? This is from MDLP World 22. We have no German/Swedish in our lines that would make this predominant. Our Europe is English/Scotch/Irish
Davidski of the Eurogenes Project has a description of the CEU population sample at http://bga101.blogspot.com/2012/02/g...apmap-ceu.html He wrote, "These samples are described by the HapMap project as Utah Americans of Western and Northern European descent."

Davidski found through some analysis that "Based on the information gained from the K=6 run, I can conclude that at least six of the CEU samples might pass for unmixed Scandinavians, most likely Danes or southern Swedes (NA12003, NA12057, NA12248, NA12249, NA12776 and NA12875). At least five could be confused for Irish or western British samples (NA10850, NA12005, NA12006, NA12386 and NA12812). The two Central European-like Utahns stick out from the CEU set due to their unusually high Baltic scores (NA11917 and NA12286)." You can read his full report of his analysis of the CEU sample through the link I provided above.

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Old 14th October 2012, 01:28 PM
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Im guessing CEU should be Central Eastern Europe??!!
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Old 14th October 2012, 01:29 PM
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See what they give you on MDLP world 22.

My Uncle's DNA is the one I posted above. Im coming up with 18% secondary Ashkenazi. This is wrong. I also get Iraqui ???. also Austria/German/Swedish????? My Europe again is Orcadian. My Mexico all listed Indian on paper (one listed African Indian mixed but this is my 4th great). Y and MT DNA AI.


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.1% German_V (derived) + 12.9% Miwok (derived) @ 2.52
2 87% CEU_V (derived) + 13% Costanoan (derived) @ 2.56
3 88.9% German_V (derived) + 11.1% Mexican (derived) @ 2.7
4 91.1% German_V (derived) + 8.9% Serrano (derived) @ 2.83
5 91.4% German_V (derived) + 8.6% Cochimi (derived) @ 2.88
6 87.5% Austrian (derived) + 12.5% Miwok (derived) @ 3.07
7 93.8% German_V (derived) + 6.2% Cucupa (derived) @ 3.14
8 94% German_V (derived) + 6% Maya (derived) @ 3.14
9 92.9% German_V (derived) + 7.1% Kumiai (derived) @ 3.16
10 89.4% German_V (derived) + 10.6% Costanoan (derived) @ 3.19
11 81.2% German-North (derived) + 18.8% Ashkenazim (derived) @ 3.21
12 81.7% German-North (derived) + 18.3% Costanoan (derived) @ 3.22
13 94.4% German_V (derived) + 5.6% Luiseno (derived) @ 3.22
14 93.7% German_V (derived) + 6.3% Apache (derived) @ 3.24
15 94.6% German_V (derived) + 5.4% Navajo (derived) @ 3.28
16 91.3% Austrian (derived) + 8.7% Serrano (derived) @ 3.29
17 91.1% CEU_V (derived) + 8.9% Iraqi (derived) @ 3.34
18 86.2% CEU_V (derived) + 13.8% Miwok (derived) @ 3.34
19 80.7% Swedish (derived) + 19.3% Costanoan (derived) @ 3.34
20 93.1% German_V (derived) + 6.9% Colombian (derived) @ 3.34

Mdlp world 22 shows me mainly as German and various Jewish populations. Which is more accurate because I have known German ancestry.
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Old 14th October 2012, 01:54 PM
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Davidski of the Eurogenes Project has a description of the CEU population sample at http://bga101.blogspot.com/2012/02/g...apmap-ceu.html He wrote, "These samples are described by the HapMap project as Utah Americans of Western and Northern European descent."

Davidski found through some analysis that "Based on the information gained from the K=6 run, I can conclude that at least six of the CEU samples might pass for unmixed Scandinavians, most likely Danes or southern Swedes (NA12003, NA12057, NA12248, NA12249, NA12776 and NA12875). At least five could be confused for Irish or western British samples (NA10850, NA12005, NA12006, NA12386 and NA12812). The two Central European-like Utahns stick out from the CEU set due to their unusually high Baltic scores (NA11917 and NA12286)." You can read his full report of his analysis of the CEU sample through the link I provided above.
Thanks!! I emailed gedmatch. Many AI read Russian/Finnish. High % given in Mexico for Russian/Finnish. I wonder if this is going on in the US side too. We have documented AI not from Mexico/south west US. I wonder if they are also mistaking some AI for Europe? My 1/2 sister is reading some Russian on this utility and we both share 2 AI great grandparents and she has AI on her mother's side. She is not reading any AI at all accept from McDonald that was able to read some on her X Chrome. She has no Russian on her mother's side.

If Im not mistaken I have read somewhere that some Swede might share similar DNA with AI? Dont they have a Haplogroup C MT-DNA that is similar to AI??
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Old 14th October 2012, 01:56 PM
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Harappa World:

I tkink that these calculators are true messy!
Herrapa is strictly Euro so dont use it but I see Puerto Rico like Mexico is Russian/Finnish LOL All wrong!
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