Go Back   Family Tree DNA Forums > Universal Lineage Testing (Autosomal DNA) > myOrigins Basics

Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 20th September 2014, 02:37 AM
1798 1798 is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 4,005
Originally Posted by T E Peterman View Post
This is no doubt a stretch... But I think it is likely that the y-DNA haplogroups associated with ANE were those descended from the branch of P that went north along the Pacific Coast, after spending millenia in the South China Sea area.

Those branches of P are known as Q and R. The population likely separated as it moved north into the temperate zone, with one population moving toward Beringia, and the other moving inland, ultimately following the steppe westward. Through genetic drift, the eastern group came to be dominated by Q & the western group by R. R probably spent the LGM in a refuge in or near Central Asia. The group that became R2 may have headed south toward Pakistan & India. The group that became R1 likely spent the LGM south of the Caucasus. As steppe hunters, it would be reasonable to suppose that by maybe 10,000 years ago, R1 had moved back to the steppe.

I suspect that between 5000 BC & 4000 BC, parts of both R1a & R1b were involved in horse domestication, and they thundered East & West on horseback, following the steppe and eventually moving beyond that. These were likely the folk that brought Indo-European languages and bronze tools & weapons into Europe, all on horseback. They probably arrived in Old Europe (ie, the Balkans) at about 4000 BC, after which that civilization disappears from the archaeological record. They probably arrived in central Europe (Austria, Germany, Switzerland) by 3000 BC or so.

The discovery of ANE (by scientists) supports the interpretation that R1b arrived in Europe just a few millenia ago from the East.

Linguists have long noted that, although there was a bit of borrowing in the PIE language from the Caucasian group, the core of PIE appears to be more closely related to the Nostratic or Eurasiatic superfamily, which includes Finno-Ugric, Uralic, Turkic, Manchurian, Japanese & more remotely, Amerindian. This is consistent with my suggestion that ANE brought the Indo-European languages into Europe.

Timothy Peterman
R1a is the more likely candidate to have brought the IE language's to western Europe.
Reply With Quote


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Post Your Eurogenes K9b results Táltos Family Finder Advanced Topics 49 9th September 2016 06:37 PM
Eurogenes K36 results. Taz85 Family Finder Advanced Topics 94 21st September 2015 11:20 PM
Eurogenes EUtest V2 results... Taz85 Family Finder Advanced Topics 39 27th November 2013 10:57 AM
GEDMATCH Eurogenes and Dodecad results Jesse1961 Family Finder Advanced Topics 0 17th November 2013 03:11 AM
Analyzing Eurogenes Results Linds Family Finder Advanced Topics 1 23rd July 2011 01:22 AM

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:00 AM.

Family Tree DNA - World Headquarters

1445 North Loop West, Suite 820
Houston, Texas 77008, USA

Phone: (713) 868-1438 | Fax: (832) 201-7147
Copyright 2001-2010 Genealogy by Genetics, Ltd.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.