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Old 16th September 2014, 03:09 PM
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Eurogenes ANE K7 results

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ANE 14% Ancient Eurasian
ASE 3% Ancient South Eurasian
WHG-UHG 56% Western European Unknown Hunting Gatherer
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 1%
ENF 27% Early Neolithic Farmer
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Old 17th September 2014, 10:10 AM
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My Result :

0.15% ANE
51.36% ASE
0.39% WHG-UHG
46.70% East_Eurasian
0.53% West_African
0.84% East_African
0.02% ENF
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Old 17th September 2014, 11:27 AM
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What do the acronyms ANE, ASE, and WHG-UHG stand for?

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Old 17th September 2014, 01:43 PM
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Ignore my query. After quite a bit a Googling I found a site that identified the acronyms.

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Old 18th September 2014, 07:25 AM
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Ignore my query. After quite a bit a Googling I found a site that identified the acronyms.

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I think it's already there, in the 1st post.

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Old 18th September 2014, 08:29 AM
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Population
ANE 14% Ancient Eurasian
ASE 3% Ancient South Eurasian
WHG-UHG 56% Western European Unknown Hunting Gatherer
East_Eurasian -
West_African -
East_African 1%
ENF 27% Early Neolithic Farmer
So you have a 14% link to Mal'ta boy. Isn't that where the ANE comes from?
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Old 18th September 2014, 03:22 PM
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So you have a 14% link to Mal'ta boy. Isn't that where the ANE comes from?
I haven't looked at the data sheet yet, So I dunno if ANE is only represented by 1 genome, I doubt it.

I know Ancient Eurasia certainly did not originate in Siberia.
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Old 19th September 2014, 04:12 AM
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I haven't looked at the data sheet yet, So I dunno if ANE is only represented by 1 genome, I doubt it.

I know Ancient Eurasia certainly did not originate in Siberia.
In stead of ANE it should be ancient central European dna.
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Old 19th September 2014, 03:28 PM
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In stead of ANE it should be ancient central European dna.
I seen this today.
"Several questions will be important to address in future ancient DNA work. One question concerns where and when the Near Eastern farmers mixed with European hunter-gatherers to produce the EEF. A second question concerns how the ancestors of present-day Europeans first acquired their ANE ancestry. Discontinuity in central Europe during the late Neolithic (~4,500 years ago) associated with the appearance of mtDNA types absent in earlier farmers and hunter-gatherers raises the possibility that ANE ancestry may have also appeared at this time. Finally, it will be important to study ancient genome sequences from the Near East to provide insights into the history of the basal Eurasians."
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Old 19th September 2014, 05:10 PM
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This is no doubt a stretch... But I think it is likely that the y-DNA haplogroups associated with ANE were those descended from the branch of P that went north along the Pacific Coast, after spending millenia in the South China Sea area.

Those branches of P are known as Q and R. The population likely separated as it moved north into the temperate zone, with one population moving toward Beringia, and the other moving inland, ultimately following the steppe westward. Through genetic drift, the eastern group came to be dominated by Q & the western group by R. R probably spent the LGM in a refuge in or near Central Asia. The group that became R2 may have headed south toward Pakistan & India. The group that became R1 likely spent the LGM south of the Caucasus. As steppe hunters, it would be reasonable to suppose that by maybe 10,000 years ago, R1 had moved back to the steppe.

I suspect that between 5000 BC & 4000 BC, parts of both R1a & R1b were involved in horse domestication, and they thundered East & West on horseback, following the steppe and eventually moving beyond that. These were likely the folk that brought Indo-European languages and bronze tools & weapons into Europe, all on horseback. They probably arrived in Old Europe (ie, the Balkans) at about 4000 BC, after which that civilization disappears from the archaeological record. They probably arrived in central Europe (Austria, Germany, Switzerland) by 3000 BC or so.

The discovery of ANE (by scientists) supports the interpretation that R1b arrived in Europe just a few millenia ago from the East.

Linguists have long noted that, although there was a bit of borrowing in the PIE language from the Caucasian group, the core of PIE appears to be more closely related to the Nostratic or Eurasiatic superfamily, which includes Finno-Ugric, Uralic, Turkic, Manchurian, Japanese & more remotely, Amerindian. This is consistent with my suggestion that ANE brought the Indo-European languages into Europe.

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