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Old 27th October 2017, 02:58 PM
Ivar Kristensen Ivar Kristensen is offline
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I would not use a word confusion, though. I would use a word closer to enlightenment as people offered to you many different avenues.
Yes, but enlightenment can lead to confusion when one realizes how complicated or difficult something is.
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Old 27th October 2017, 06:04 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...y-react-insult
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Old 1st November 2017, 09:59 PM
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It may not be worth updating. However, I wouldn't see your lack of matches as a waste of money. Getting tested does not guarantee that you will have meaningful matches. My own Y67 has no matches at any level. I don't see it as a waste. It just means I am the first in my lineage to test. Now I just have to wait or actively recruit to get matches. You may need to wait a week, a decade, or more. At least now you have a flag planted where those matches can find you.
I've got similar issues. I took the Y-67 test about 8 years ago... I've got 130 matches at 25 markers (each with a distance of 1 or 2) and absolutely zero matches at 37 or 67 markers. But I'm patient, I can wait.
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Old 19th November 2017, 11:46 AM
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I gave in and upgraded to y111. Only one match with a genetic distance of 8 (it was 6 at 67 markers). Tip calculations as follows:

Generations Percentage
4 1.94%
8 29.18%
12 69.97%
16 91.70%
20 98.30%
24 99.72%


The person I match belongs to the I-S7753 subclade/branch.
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Old 19th November 2017, 11:48 PM
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On how a genetic of 8 with 111 markers should be interpreted https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/...s-interpreted/

"A 103/111 match indicates a distant cousinship with only a chance of a genealogical relationship. Over half of matches at this level are related as 12th cousins or more recently. Most matches at this level are related as 18th cousins or more recently. The connections here can be highly informative for relationships with historic groups and events. If there is a tradition of a recent genealogical relationship, the best way to confirm it is to test additional family lines. By testing additional family lines, you can find the person in between who is a closer match to each of the others tested. This ‘in betweener’ is essential for you to find as their match proves the connection between the more distant matches."

I'm trying to find out how old the S7753 mutation is. Does anybody know?

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Old 20th November 2017, 01:56 AM
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On how a genetic of 8 with 111 markers should be interpreted https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/...s-interpreted/

"A 103/111 match indicates a distant cousinship with only a chance of a genealogical relationship. Over half of matches at this level are related as 12th cousins or more recently. Most matches at this level are related as 18th cousins or more recently. The connections here can be highly informative for relationships with historic groups and events. If there is a tradition of a recent genealogical relationship, the best way to confirm it is to test additional family lines. By testing additional family lines, you can find the person in between who is a closer match to each of the others tested. This ‘in betweener’ is essential for you to find as their match proves the connection between the more distant matches."

I'm trying to find out how old the S7753 mutation is. Does anybody know?
In FTDNA yTree (not sure which version/year of ISOGG they are using)
S7753 also includes F2696, FGC20060,FGC20057,FGC20050,FGC20043,FGC20056, & Y4159

ISOGG 2017 tree has it at as FGC20048/S7753/Y4171 (Long hand - I2a2a1a1a1a)
https://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpI.html

In YFull tree I-Y4171. Y4171/FGC20048(also includes F2696, FGC20060,FGC20057,FGC20050,FGC20043,FGC20056, & Y4159) is listed as formed 3100 ybp, TMRCA 1800 ybp
https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y4171/

YSEQ list S7753 as Aka FGC20048

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Old 20th November 2017, 02:18 AM
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Thanks prairielad. I thought it was more recent. I'll have to find my sub-branch downstream of S7753.
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