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Old 16th April 2018, 05:15 AM
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dna :

Se moquer d'une personne qui essaie de communiquer dans une langue étrangère n'est pas très fair play. Never mind, même si je passe pour une véritable idiote à vos yeux, je dois l'accepter pour comprendre.

"http://www.phylotree.org/ does use RSRS, but additionally you can download an rCRS version to your computer. You have to go through a separate link on the main page."

Honeychuck says it's rCRS, you say : it's RSRS ?????????

On the link ""http://www.phylotree.org" I was not able to find the rCRS version on the main page.
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Old 16th April 2018, 05:32 AM
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This link "http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/m1_genbank_sequences.htm"

rCRS or RSRS ??????? Thank you for your reply.
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Old 16th April 2018, 07:48 AM
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This link "http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/m1_genbank_sequences.htm"

rCRS or RSRS ??????? Thank you for your reply.
I think it uses rCRS. Maybe the person "dna" will correct me.

Two full matches in German... interesting. I hope they will reply to you.
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Old 16th April 2018, 09:09 AM
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After nearly 4 weeks now, I don't wait for a reply.

Pehaps, they are looking only for cousins with the F.F.

Thank you for your kindness.
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Old 16th April 2018, 09:34 AM
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Google their names. Maybe their family trees are on line someplace.
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Old 16th April 2018, 11:42 AM
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This link "http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/m1_genbank_sequences.htm"

rCRS or RSRS ??????? Thank you for your reply.
I think it uses rCRS. Maybe the person "dna" will correct me. [----]
I do not like having to deal with rCRS and RSRS, either. I like that FTDNA is using different conventions to write mutations in rCRS and RSRS. Thus with FTDNA results one look is enough. In the wild (=Internet), it is not that trivial...

In this case it is easy to verify, since NC_012920 (= the original CRS sample, known to be haplogroup H2a2a1) is included.

Reading the page for the haplogroup H2a2a and its branches http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_..._sequences.htm tells us that NC_012920 is listed as CRS without any mutations. That confirms the site is using rCRS (nowadays nobody is using the original CRS).


Mr. W.
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Old 16th April 2018, 12:59 PM
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Je m'excuse. Je suis désolé.

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[----] On the link ""http://www.phylotree.org" I was not able to find the rCRS version on the main page.
rCRS version is accessible for a download from the main page under the link named rCRS-oriented version of Build 17


Mr. W.

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rCRS sample NC_012920 can be found on the page http://phylotree.org/tree/R0.htm (you may want to use your browser built-in search Ctrl-F). It can be seen there that it is not special in any way, since the tree is using RSRS.

You can search for H2a2a1 or rCRS. NC_012920 is only a value in the link to GenBank, so it cannot be searched.
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Old 17th April 2018, 03:53 AM
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Merci beaucoup Mr. W for the link.

With this link : http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/discussion/hap_M1.htm
If I look at the group M1a1, I never have all the mutations indicated for a specific country.

For this link : http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_..._sequences.htm

I do not know how to use this table. It is a colossal, titanic job requiring good glasses to check all the sequences with mine and this for each country (even if I exclude Tanzania and Yemen!)
I already have to print this painting piece by piece.

Do you have a good idea other?

Otherwise, I think I will stay indecisive. It was just a curiosity, a fun but I do not regret the hours spent because I learned a lot but if everyone has a good idea, i take it

J. Honeychuck: I send to you un P.M about my matches.
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