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Old 15th August 2017, 10:06 AM
Robob123 Robob123 is offline
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Am I Ashkenazi Levite?

I have done Y-37 markers and predicted haplogroup is R-M198
. I've been looking at this spreadsheet http://forums.familytreedna.com/atta...9&d=1499386708 and comparing it with my STR markers and they all seem to match.

Here are my markers.

DYS 393 /13, DYS 390 25, DYS 19/394 14, DYS 391 11 ,DYS 385a*** 11 ,DYS 385b*** 14, DYS 426 12, DYS 388 12 ,DYS 439 11, DYS 389-1** 13, DYS 392 11 ,DYS 389-2** 30 ,DYS 548 15, DYS 459a 9, DYS 459b 10, DYS 455*** 11, DYS 454*** 11, DYS 447 23, DYS 437 14, DYS 448 19, DYS 449 32, DYS 464a 15 ,DYS 464b 15, DYS 464 c 17, DYS 464d 17 ,DYS 460 11 ,GATA H4 12 YCA IIa 19, YCA IIb 23 ,DYS 456 15, DYS 607 15, DYS 576 17 ,DYS 570 18, CDY a 34 ,CDY b 38 ,DYS 442 14, DYS 438 11




Could someone knowleagable on the subject let me know whether I am reading this correctly and whethere there is a possibility I could have Ashkenazi levite inheritance.

Thanks,

Robert
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Old 15th August 2017, 01:39 PM
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Didn't you get a list of matches on your 37-marker screen?
Are they Ashkenazic Jews? Do some of them say they come from families called Levy, Levi, Halevi, Levin, Levine?
There will be your answer.
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Old 15th August 2017, 01:59 PM
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No I didn't as most of them were Hudson which is my surname. Although I do have an Ashkenazi match from Poland and a Sephardic from portugal on 12 Marker on ancestral origins in Y-DNA. Although I don't really understand the percentages that come with that. If the STR markers are the same then does that not mean I descend from an Ashkenazi Levite regardless? I've traced my paternal lineage back to about 1700 although I know that STR markers go a lot further back than this. I've thought there may be a genetic influence which took a different migration path and was from a different population than what is regarded as a typically British being R1b for example and populations of ango-saxons, jutes, danes, vikings etcc.. as I don't look typically British and neither does my paternal line. I'm essentially looking to pin point my migration path and where my ancestors lived before me and could the STR markers not go further back than surnames and to a time where ways of life were completely different? It's possible that my paternal line anglicised there surnames.

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Old 15th August 2017, 02:29 PM
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No I didn't [match Jewish Levites on the 37 Marker match list] as most of them were Hudson which is my surname. ... Although I do have an Ashkenazi match from Poland and a Sephardic from portugal on 12 Marker on ancestral origins in Y-DNA.
Then I am certain that you belong to a different branch of R1a1a than the Ashkenazic Levites, and is consistent with your recent Northwestern European heritage. But you share a common ancestor with them many thousands of years ago, and of course also with all other R1a holders around Eurasia.
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Old 15th August 2017, 02:42 PM
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I have done Y-37 markers and predicted haplogroup is R-M198
. I've been looking at this spreadsheet http://forums.familytreedna.com/atta...9&d=1499386708 and comparing it with my STR markers and they all seem to match.

Here are my markers.

DYS 393 /13, DYS 390 25, DYS 19/394 14, DYS 391 11 ,DYS 385a*** 11 ,DYS 385b*** 14, DYS 426 12, DYS 388 12 ,DYS 439 11, DYS 389-1** 13, DYS 392 11 ,DYS 389-2** 30 ,DYS 548 15, DYS 459a 9, DYS 459b 10, DYS 455*** 11, DYS 454*** 11, DYS 447 23, DYS 437 14, DYS 448 19, DYS 449 32, DYS 464a 15 ,DYS 464b 15, DYS 464 c 17, DYS 464d 17 ,DYS 460 11 ,GATA H4 12 YCA IIa 19, YCA IIb 23 ,DYS 456 15, DYS 607 15, DYS 576 17 ,DYS 570 18, CDY a 34 ,CDY b 38 ,DYS 442 14, DYS 438 11




Could someone knowleagable on the subject let me know whether I am reading this correctly and whethere there is a possibility I could have Ashkenazi levite inheritance.

Thanks,

Robert
You're not a match.
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Old 15th August 2017, 03:01 PM
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You're quite distant from the R1a1a Ashkenazi Levite mode, so your shared ancestor with them lived long ago. If you haven't yet done so, you should join the FTDNA R1a project; they'll slot you into a Y-DNA cluster.
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Old 15th August 2017, 03:17 PM
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Hey, thanks. Yeah I've joined the R-M198 group on FTDNA and sent administrator email and they haven't got back yet but I'm sure they will soon. When you say long ago how long? I'm still convinced that I have an ancestor who lived somewhere else in the world whose genes are quite strong as they seem to be dominant and 'over-write' the other genetic influences in a phenotype sense as with other members of my family. I believe it's possible that an ancestor lived in the Middle-East, India or Eastern Europe yet all my research seems to contest this as I have basically just got matches with people of my surname and on Family finder ethnicity estimates are British Isles and the cousin matches are too and paper trail. Yet I don't really look like any of them and more likely look like someone of Asian descent. I know how Europeans initially came from Asia and all that chat but I still think there's something missing in my ancestry somewhere which can't have been that far in the past. People might say I'm being shallow basing my enquiry on looks but regardless the way you look speaks of where your previous ancestors have lived. I would be proud if I knew the full picture but it's possible I may never. Thanks for responses

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Old 15th August 2017, 11:40 PM
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Pending the R1a project's placement of you in a cluster, my guess is that you're more likely to be in the R1a-Z283 branch of R1a than the R1a-Z93 cluster to which R1a1a Ashkenazi Levites belong. According to the YFull R1a tree, R1a-Z283 and R1a-Z93 branched off from each other about 5,000 years ago.
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