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Old 30th April 2006, 12:31 PM
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South Carolina Lee's

I am looking for ANY possible leads on:

Born Free Slave Lists
Robert E. Lee: Black offspring
Stratford Lees of the South
Henry "Light Horse Harry" Lee
Southern Slave Owners
Arlington House
Emancipation Records in South Carolina
Slavery Archives in South Carolina
Slavery Archives in Georgia

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 30th April 2006, 02:24 PM
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I am looking for information about my Great Grandfather Moses Lee either out of Georgia or South Carolina. He was married to Daisy and lived in Abbeyville, South Carolina. Could have been part of the slaves Robert E. Lee freed on his deceased father-in-laws plantation.

My great-grandparents had 5 Children:
(Gobner) Manning Lee: my grandfather
James Lee
Ollie Lee
Ael Lee
Pearl Lee

Most of the family later gravited to Grand Rapids, Michigan in the 1950's. I am looking for ANY possible leads on:

Born Free Slave Lists
Robert E. Lee: Black offspring
Stratford Lees of the South
Henry "Light Horse Harry" Lee
Southern Slave Owners
Arlington House
Emancipation Records in South Carolina
Slavery Archives in South Carolina
Slavery Archives in Georgia

Any info would be greatly appreciated!
I have a 20/25 Y-DNA match at relativegenetics.com that says "Desc of William Henry Lee (b1798SC?>OH>ILd1855)". So I guess William Henry Lee was born in South Carolina in 1798.
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Old 30th April 2006, 03:34 PM
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Look at the top of the page for the word "PROJECTS" It is hidden within a string of words near the pot of this page. Look for Lee under projects. there may be answers in a Lee Surname project. Members also post family trees under "Patriarchs"
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Old 1st May 2006, 03:52 AM
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I have a 20/25 Y-DNA match at relativegenetics.com that says "Desc of William Henry Lee (b1798SC?>OH>ILd1855)". So I guess William Henry Lee was born in South Carolina in 1798.
I also have a 19/25 match saying "Desc of Charles Carter Lee (b1798StratfdVAd1871VA)". Wikipedia says Robert E Lee was from Virginia. Could this Charles Carter Lee have been a relative of Robert E Lee, or is Lee a very common name in Virginia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E_Lee
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Old 1st May 2006, 04:00 AM
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I also have a 19/25 match saying "Desc of Charles Carter Lee (b1798StratfdVAd1871VA)". Wikipedia says Robert E Lee was from Virginia. Could this Charles Carter Lee have been a relative of Robert E Lee, or is Lee a very common name in Virginia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E_Lee
Google already answered my question. Looks like Charles Carter Lee was Robert E Lee's older brother:

http://www.ishipress.com/pafg51.htm#992
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Old 1st May 2006, 04:48 AM
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You can see the Lee surname project results at Relative Genetics here:

http://www.relativegenetics.com/geno...0RLG&lr=search

login: Leefamily
password: Leedna

They have several haplogroups (I1a, I1c, R1b, R1a, E3b and J2), so not all Lees have the same paternal ancestor.
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Old 1st May 2006, 02:16 PM
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I never knew the US political elite in the 19th century were so "inbred". Robert E Lee was related to presidents Zachary Taylor and Abraham Lincoln and Taylors daughter Sarah Knox Taylor was married to Confederate president Jefferson Davis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zachary_Taylor
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Old 1st May 2006, 06:12 PM
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These Virginia Lees have become very interesting to me. It looks like their ancestors were Normans in the 11th century Cheshire, England:

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.c...-coat-arms.htm

I also have some relatively close matches with people name Fleming, and have already earlier suspected my Y-DNA might have arrived in 14th century Finland (then part of Sweden) through southern Sweden (then part of Denmark):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Fleming

It turned out that in 11th century there was a Norman called Gherbod the Fleming, who was the Earl of Chester:

http://genealogy.patp.us/conq/wwarenne.shtml

This is like building a puzzle. Flemings and Lees in 11th century Chesire, some Flemings and Lees have similar Y-Dna. Could they have been related back in those times?
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Old 2nd May 2006, 04:07 AM
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Looks like the de Leigh family of Chesire claimed descent from Adeliza, Countess of Aumale, the half-sister of William the Conqueror:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dykes_(surname)

And Gherbod the Fleming was the first husband of William Conqueror's wife Maude of Flanders:

http://www.kittymunson.com/GEDbrows/g1493.html#I29870

I guess the Norman elite was quite "inbred" too, so maybe it's still possible that the Lees (Leighs) and the Flemings might be related.
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Old 4th May 2006, 04:21 AM
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"It was the 8th Duke of Argyll who used to cry: ?I am pure Celt?; however, there is no doubt at all that the arms of Campbell are anciently the arms of the Baldwins, Counts of Flanders."

http://amg1.net/scotland/flemfam.htm

Now it looks like that also DNA proves the Duke wrong. I have 19/25 matches with people named Campbell in the Relative Genetics database, as well as 13/17 and 12/16 matches with people named Wells, who apparently descend from Normans named de Welles:

"Richard d?Ouille (de Welles) ,b ca 1030, brother of Robert (Roger) d?Oilley, a companion of the Conqueror and 1st Castellan of Oxford held the Manor of Welle in Dorset and Manor of Wedna (Welle) in Essex, apparent ancestor (due to Saxon mispronunciation of Ouille) of Wells family in Dorset and Somerset)."

http://www.pcug.org.au/~ronwells/700-9.htm

It would be nice to know if I had common ancestors with these people before or after the Norman times.
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