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Old 27th July 2018, 10:33 AM
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On my monitor, I can (faintly) see that it is not a black flag, but black-and-white flag. To help I have provided a link that shows the flag owner when hovering over it, and added underline so the white space gives the flag its usual proportions.

That flag shows in historical paintings, possibly in the period movies, but it would look weird, unexpected or at least misleading in the context of a genealogical tree, wouldn't it?


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My monitor still shows it as a solid black rectangle.

You said that you provided a link, but that does not appear either.
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Old 28th July 2018, 08:04 AM
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KATM, which ever flag you use it your choice!
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Old 28th July 2018, 11:03 AM
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KATM, which ever flag you use it your choice!
Thanks. And thanks for bringing it back on topic!

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Old 30th July 2018, 06:21 PM
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Consistency is the key - either go with the flags of the time your ancestors lived there or go with whatever is current, don't mix. Personally, I would probably go with current flags, since they are more familiar. If the purpose is to have a quick and easy visual reference, the more familiar the flags are, the more useful they will be.
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Old 30th July 2018, 08:30 PM
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Consistency is the key - either go with the flags of the time your ancestors lived there or go with whatever is current, don't mix. Personally, I would probably go with current flags, since they are more familiar. If the purpose is to have a quick and easy visual reference, the more familiar the flags are, the more useful they will be.
Flags are symbols of expression, traditionally one of a group or nationality. Even now, in many countries governmental regimes come and go and then borders become redrawn. The names of some countries change often, as their regimes do. In more stable countries this usually doesn't occur - or at least it happens much more slowly, if ever at all.

Ethnicity, language and culture have long been retained in local populations in most areas despite any flux in national or political regimes. But their retention of remaining physically present in a locale was guaranteed, due to family ties as well as lack of economic advancement. That resulted in little or no geographic movement among those who lived there. So they remained.

There are some peoples with little or no admix that are essentially nationless. They have retained their ethnicity, language and culture over many centuries, but have no distinct nationality.

Considering all that, why does anyone feel a compelling need to display any flag?
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Old 31st July 2018, 10:36 AM
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Flags are symbols of expression, traditionally one of a group or nationality. Even now, in many countries governmental regimes come and go and then borders become redrawn. The names of some countries change often, as their regimes do. In more stable countries this usually doesn't occur - or at least it happens much more slowly, if ever at all.

Ethnicity, language and culture have long been retained in local populations in most areas despite any flux in national or political regimes. But their retention of remaining physically present in a locale was guaranteed, due to family ties as well as lack of economic advancement. That resulted in little or no geographic movement among those who lived there. So they remained.

There are some peoples with little or no admix that are essentially nationless. They have retained their ethnicity, language and culture over many centuries, but have no distinct nationality.

Considering all that, why does anyone feel a compelling need to display any flag?
For the reasons already mentioned by the OP.
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Old 2nd August 2018, 10:24 AM
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... in many countries governmental regimes come and go and then borders become redrawn. The names of some countries change often, as their regimes do. In more stable countries this usually doesn't occur - or at least it happens much more slowly, if ever at all.
The majority of my ancestors come from regions that have switched from one country to another within the past 200 years, not to mention all the earlier changes. And that was all just in Europe.

Choosing the national flag at the time of an ancestor's birth would force me to put a handful of swastikas on my tree, which I refuse to do because it does not represent those ancestors' values.

Current flags could work on a chart with relatively few generations, to tell a story ("this branch came from France, that branch from Germany, etc."). But it's be of limited use.

Regional flags might be better, as people identified themselves more by their region than their nation. But that will require more research and won't be as universally understood.
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Old 2nd August 2018, 12:23 PM
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I sort of like the archaic flags. I find it educational trying to find their history.

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Old 2nd August 2018, 10:02 PM
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I'm Scandinavian, I like all the Scandinavian flags they use the sideways Christian cross. My Gr Grandparents came from Denmark I like the Danish flag.
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Old 3rd August 2018, 08:30 PM
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Regional flags might be better, as people identified themselves more by their region than their nation. But that will require more research and won't be as universally understood.
That's my point - besides which regions usually didn't have flags of their own, but nations always do. Whether you have an ancestry that has little or no admixture, or even a lot, ultimately it makes no difference. Once you know or discover who you are and from whence your forebears came, you might not need to display it with a flag. One flag, many flags, or no flag at all. Flying or displaying any flag depends on what you want to express - or what you are being proud of.
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