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Old 29th September 2017, 06:50 AM
stefe67 stefe67 is offline
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Hi !

is there some H13a1a1 here ? i didn't find any informations about my haplogroup ...someone can give me some infos ?

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Old 29th September 2017, 02:58 PM
KATM KATM is offline
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My paternal grandmother's line is H13a1a1a, so a branch off of your H13a1a1.

There isn't much about either on the Eupedia page for Haplogroup H (mtDNA), where it says:
H13 could have been a lineage of goat herders living in the mountainous environment of eastern Anatolia and the Caucasus, then spread through the equally mountainous landscapes of the Mediterranean, from Greece to Italy, then to Iberia.
Haplogroup H2b, H6a1b, H13a1a1a and many other undetermined H subclades (including many probable H1 and H5) turned up among the mtDNA samples from the Yamna culture, which occupied the Pontic-Caspian Steppe during the Early Bronze Age.
My father did the Geno 2.0 test by National Geographic. They say:
Branch: H13
Age: 12,500 900 Years Ago
Location of Origin: Central Asia
Groups containing this lineage lived in the harsh climate of the Caucasus. From there, some have migrated to Europe and West Asia.

Today, this line is present at low frequency in both Asia and Europe, but its highest population frequency and diversity is present in the Caucasus. There, it is prominent in Dagestan (15 percent) and in Georgia (13.3 percent).

In West Asia, it is over 18 percent of some population groups in Iraq and about 13 percent of the population in United Arab Emirates.

In Europe, it is 3 to 4 percent of maternal lineages in Italy, 3 percent of maternal lineages in Norway, and about 2 percent of maternal lineages in Turkey.

Note: This branch is not accompanied by a major movement on the map, and research on this branch is continuing.
Branch: H13a1a1
Age: About 5,880 years old
Location of Origin: Central Asia
This woman’s descendants mark several waves of migrants who traveled from Central Asia to northwestern Europe and southeastern Europe.

Today, this branch is present at trance frequencies of less than 1 percent in northwestern Europe. The highest frequencies there are in Finland and Norway, where it accounts for a little more than 1 percent of the population. Contrastingly, other descendant branches of this lineage are present in Jewish Diaspora population groups such as Ashkenazi Jews.

Note: This branch is not accompanied by a major movement on the map, and research on this branch is continuing.
Bottom line: "more research needed here."
I'm sorry I don't have any other resources to share, but there may be some scientific papers online somewhere that I haven't come across yet.

My father's direct maternal line only goes back to his great-grandmother in Germany; a brick wall for my genealogical research, unfortunately. She may have lived in what was then Prussia (a region which has been in Poland since WWII), but I can't find proof for that theory so far. His grandmother left few clues for her origin in Germany in the records I've found for her.

You could try joining the H13 mtDNA Haplogroup project.

Last edited by KATM; 29th September 2017 at 03:03 PM.
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Old 6th October 2017, 04:49 AM
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thank you ! it's very interesting !
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