Which FTDNA results transfer to GP?

**darroll** · 7 February 2008, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by GhostX

The description for the transfer on the FTDNA personal page says that "you will be able to upload your 12-marker results and/or your mtDNA to the Genographic Project," but I'm wondering if that wording changes once you have more panel results available.

You can transfer your test results to NG at any time or as many times as you wish. d

**efgen** · 7 February 2008, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by GhostX

The description for the transfer on the FTDNA personal page says that "you will be able to upload your 12-marker results and/or your mtDNA to the Genographic Project," but I'm wondering if that wording changes once you have more panel results available.

Genographic only uses 12 markers, HVR1 and backbone haplogroups for its study, so it doesn't matter what else you've tested.

Contrary to Darroll's statement, you cannot transfer your results "as many times as you wish". You transfer your Y-DNA and mtDNA once, and you'll be assigned a Genographic Project ID so you can access your personal Genographic Project results page at any time. One thing I don't know is whether you'll be given a single Genographic Project ID to access both your Y-DNA and mtDNA, or whether you'll be given a separate ID for each.

Elise

**GhostX** · 8 February 2008, 08:01 AM

Thanks Elise, that is very helpful info!

**R2-D2** · 8 February 2008, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by efgen

Genographic only uses 12 markers, HVR1 and backbone haplogroups for its study, so it doesn't matter what else you've tested.

Contrary to Darroll's statement, you cannot transfer your results "as many times as you wish". You transfer your Y-DNA and mtDNA once, and you'll be assigned a Genographic Project ID so you can access your personal Genographic Project results page at any time. One thing I don't know is whether you'll be given a single Genographic Project ID to access both your Y-DNA and mtDNA, or whether you'll be given a separate ID for each.

Elise

You get a separate code for each. I started out with GP and then transferred to FTDNA. When I had my mtDNA done I uploaded that to GP and received another code.

GP doesn't use all of the subclades, yet... I am R1b at GP, when I transferred to FTDNA they estimated me to be R1b1. I had FTDNA's Deep SNP test for R1b and they determined me to be R1b1c. Then I had some more SNPs tested with EthnoAncestry (EA) that are only available through them and they determined me to be R1b1c9. Later on this year FTDNA will start offering all but one of those SNPs that EA tests for (S68 has no equivalent yet).

**darroll** · 9 February 2008, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by efgen

Genographic only uses 12 markers, HVR1 and backbone haplogroups for its study, so it doesn't matter what else you've tested.

Contrary to Darroll's statement, you cannot transfer your results "as many times as you wish". You transfer your Y-DNA and mtDNA once, and you'll be assigned a Genographic Project ID so you can access your personal Genographic Project results page at any time. One thing I don't know is whether you'll be given a single Genographic Project ID to access both your Y-DNA and mtDNA, or whether you'll be given a separate ID for each.

Elise

Whenever I get new test results back I have the option to send the information to NG. I have had all the tests possible, done. Still waiting for the HVR2 results. I will forward these to NG also. Don't know what happens to the data, someone takes it. You have to have separate passwords for
the MTDNA and Y-DNA. d

**efgen** · 9 February 2008, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by darroll

Whenever I get new test results back I have the option to send the information to NG. I have had all the tests possible, done. Still waiting for the HVR2 results. I will forward these to NG also. Don't know what happens to the data, someone takes it. You have to have separate passwords for
the MTDNA and Y-DNA. d

Darroll,

That's Ysearch and Mitosearch that you can upload all your results to. Not the Genographic Project.

Elise

**darroll** · 9 February 2008, 08:33 PM

Elise,
I will give you the benefit of doubt on this one.
Next month I will pay attention when I share the results with who/ever.
I just don't like to share with folks that "sell" my/our DNA. Also some share their results ... but... make it so you can't contact them. One of these was a perfect match, I have no idea who they are?
Thanks, dc

**GhostX** · 10 February 2008, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by R2-D2

I am R1b at GP, when I transferred to FTDNA they estimated me to be R1b1. I had FTDNA's Deep SNP test for R1b and they determined me to be R1b1c. Then I had some more SNPs tested with EthnoAncestry (EA) that are only available through them and they determined me to be R1b1c9. Later on this year FTDNA will start offering all but one of those SNPs that EA tests for (S68 has no equivalent yet).

I was about to order a Y-DNA deep clade test (I'm currently R1b1c) from FTDNA, as they already have my DNA. Given what you just said about how FTDNA is going to be adding SNP's, should I go ahead and order the deep clade test now, or wait until later this year?

**darroll** · 10 February 2008, 01:36 PM

Go for it.
FTDNA knows what they are doing. d

**MMaddi** · 10 February 2008, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by GhostX

I was about to order a Y-DNA deep clade test (I'm currently R1b1c) from FTDNA, as they already have my DNA. Given what you just said about how FTDNA is going to be adding SNP's, should I go ahead and order the deep clade test now, or wait until later this year?

If I were you, I'd wait until later this year.

Once Dr. Michael Hammer's study on the new y chromosome haplogroup tree is published, very soon, FTDNA will recognize two of the most important R1b1c SNPs (S21/R1b1c9 and S28/R1b1c10) and start testing for them. Dr. Hammer is one of the world's leading population geneticists and runs the Univ. of Arizona lab which does most of FTDNA's testing.

It's estimated that 25% of R1b1c's will test S21+ and maybe another 10% will test S28+. That's a big chunk of R1b1c that FTDNA presently isn't able to confirm in the R1b deep clade test. In fact, given that about 50% of R1b1c's will test negative for all currently known downstream SNPs, including S21 and S28, those two SNPs together will account for 70% of positive deep clade results in R1b1c.

You can spend your money how you want to, but that's my advice to you.

**darroll** · 10 February 2008, 04:25 PM

Im under the impression that they are doing all the tests now.
Then will release the information as circumstances allow. This was why I had our HVR2 done in 2008.
I was also told that I do not have to be retested and reached the end of their ability to do anymore testing for the family as all tests were/are being performed. I hope the latest tests shed some light on Haplogroup H. I have no idea where my Mothers/Mother line came from. She had a slight red tint to her hair and was short. d

**GhostX** · 11 February 2008, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by MMaddi

If I were you, I'd wait until later this year.

Thanks MMaddi, that sounds like good advice. I contacted FTDNA today and was told the same thing... that they recommend that I hold off on ordering, so that there would be only one extraction necessary. They had no estimate as to when the additional SNPs will be available, but they said "soon."

**darroll** · 18 February 2008, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by efgen

Darroll,

That's Ysearch and Mitosearch that you can upload all your results to. Not the Genographic Project.

Elise

Elise,
You are right. I can copy my information to Mitosearch only and not NG. This time I have declined to move my data to Mitosearch since I have a match at HVR2. This sure beats hundreds of near misses. Thanks, darroll

Which FTDNA results transfer to GP?

Which FTDNA results transfer to GP?

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