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E19463 25th April 2015 05:57 AM

Only 140,000 people in FTDNAs database?
 
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It is written that there are only about 140,000 people in FTDNAs database but over 900,000 in 23andMe, see link
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_...mparison_chart and attachment below.

Until now I thought that FTDNA is much bigger than the competitors. Was I wrong?

nicolam 25th April 2015 06:35 AM

I had thought it was more than that. What is the banner on the FTDNA home page referring to by "we have 720,505 records - the largest DNA ancestry database in the world!"
https://www.familytreedna.com/
I thought this was how many people have tested with them, but it must mean something else.

LynCra 25th April 2015 06:58 AM

Pure speculation. They have never published how many FF customers they have. Ridiculous attitude to publish those other less interesting statistics but never answer the question that people have been asking for several years. Probably missed a good marketing opportunity from that in the early days of FF too. Watching a steadily growing db would have encouraged more sales in the days before there was major competition.

Kathleen Carrow 25th April 2015 07:24 AM

They can tell somewhat by the Transfer # how many they have.. possibly 140,000 although some transfers are for Y..
the "B" transfer #s still are below 60,000

That "Big" number of testers they quote is for all tests not unduplicated testers.. 12 marker Y tests etc ..which does NOT give an autosomal database to compare against..

Armando 25th April 2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by E19463 (Post 408510)
It is written that there are only about 140,000 people in FTDNAs database but over 900,000 in 23andMe, see link
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_...mparison_chart and attachment below.

Until now I thought that FTDNA is much bigger than the competitors. Was I wrong?

Apples and oranges.

Most of the people at 23andme didn't do it for genealogical or ethnicity reasons. They did it for the medical aspect. FTDNA never offered DNA testing for medical reasons so it was only done for the genealogical or ethnicity reasons and you have to request your autosomal matches to share their genome in order to see which chromosomes they match on and most of those people don't accept. Most don't even share their name before the sharing is requested and accepted.

23andme does not do Y-DNA STR testing, Y-DNA matching, FMS mtDNA testing, or mtDNA matching.

However, the ethnicity calculation is way better at 23andme and it is probably because they have more people in their database.

E19463 25th April 2015 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Armando (Post 408549)
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However, the ethnicity calculation is way better at 23andme and it is probably because they have more people in their database.

So does this mean that if someone is looking for relatives (an adoptee for example), he would be better off with 23andMe due to their larger database?

Parameswara 25th April 2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by E19463 (Post 408510)
It is written that there are only about 140,000 people in FTDNAs database but over 900,000 in 23andMe, see link
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_...mparison_chart and attachment below.

Until now I thought that FTDNA is much bigger than the competitors. Was I wrong?

That's Autosomal DNA testing comparison chart. DNA testing is not just autosomal. That 140,000 is the number of people who get autosomal test in FTDNA.


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Originally Posted by nicolam (Post 408514)
I had thought it was more than that. What is the banner on the FTDNA home page referring to by "we have 720,505 records - the largest DNA ancestry database in the world!"
https://www.familytreedna.com/
I thought this was how many people have tested with them, but it must mean something else.

Well, my relatives KIT number is 414348. So at least there are more 400,000 people who ordered KIT from FTDNA. Then don't forget people who get test from Genographic Project and some affiliated companies like African DNA, DNA Ancestry and Family Origin, DNA World Wide, and iGenea. Many people ordered more than 1 test (Autosomal, Y-STR&SNP, mtDNA, Big Y). So the number 720,505 records really make sense.

The largest autosomal database maybe 23andme (and maybe soon AncestryDNA become the largest). But, Y-STR&SNP and mtDNA database, obviously FTDNA is number one.

LynCra 25th April 2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by E19463 (Post 408564)
So does this mean that if someone is looking for relatives (an adoptee for example), he would be better off with 23andMe due to their larger database?

An adoptee would have the best chance of success by testing with all of the big companies.

nicolam 25th April 2015 06:23 PM

I have tested with 23andMe (I uploaded to FTDNA), and my 3 closest matches there don't reply to messages so I can't find out where we match. They are just ignoring me, but I've also had several requests to compare genomes declined. I have fewer matches on FTDNA but at least I can compare them in the chromosome browser.

MoberlyDrake 25th April 2015 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nicolam (Post 408599)
I have tested with 23andMe (I uploaded to FTDNA), and my 3 closest matches there don't reply to messages so I can't find out where we match. They are just ignoring me, but I've also had several requests to compare genomes declined. I have fewer matches on FTDNA but at least I can compare them in the chromosome browser.


You have a chromosome browser at 23andMe, though it works a little differently.


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